Ray McGovern :
Rumsfeld: ... it appears that there were not weapons of mass destruction there.Photo credit: Ray McGovern. (Matthew Bradley)
McGovern: You said you knew where they were.
Rumsfeld: I did not. I said I knew where suspect sites were and ...
McGovern: You said you knew where they were. Tikrit, Baghdad, northeast, south, west of there. Those are your words.
Rumsfeld: My words ... my words were that ... no-no, wait a minute - wait a minute. Let him stay one second. Just a second ...
So, Rummy never said that? NOT. Here's what he said to George Stephanopolous three years ago:
Mr. Stephanopoulos: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control US and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?
Sec. Rumsfeld: Not at all. If you think - let me take that, both pieces - the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
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