Wednesday, September 13, 2006

Friedman's Facile Falsiness

Friedman's op ed in today's Times is full of holes, mistruths, and typical US/Israel one-sided analysis; I can find almost nothing with which I agree.

Israelis should be upset with their leaders--very upset. As should we be with our own leaders.

Israel, with the US goosing it along, instigated the war in Lebanon and so did more to hurt the cause of peace in the region than to help it.

Condi, rather than being congratulated for her "achievement" should be castigated for refusing to call a cease fire weeks before an agreement was finally reached, and she must share responsibility for the resulting slaughter of innocents on both sides.

When will these Neanderthals in government get it though their misshapen brains that war does not bring peace? It brings hatred and death.

Will our civilization ever evolve to a higher plane? So far, there is little evidence to support it.


Land for NATO
By Thomas L. Friedman
The New York Times
Listening to the post-Lebanon-war debate in Israel leaves me wanting to say just one thing to Israelis: Get a grip on.

Israel is behaving like it lost the Lebanon war and now needs to tear itself apart, limb by limb, with investigations and new elections. Clearly the Israeli Army’s logistics broke down, and clearly it was ill-prepared for a guerrilla war against Hezbollah. And clearly it is a sign of the health of Israel’s democracy that Israelis feel free to castigate their leadership.

Nevertheless, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert did a better job, under the circumstances, than he is being credited with, and, more important, the situation evolving in south Lebanon now has the potential to offer a whole new model for peacemaking.

Regarding Mr. Olmert, this war was not easy to manage, because it was about everything and nothing. There was absolutely no reason for the Hezbollah attack on July 12 across the U.N.-recognized Israel-Lebanon border, in which eight Israeli soldiers were killed and two abducted. In that sense, the war was about nothing.

But precisely because it was about nothing, it was also about everything. If Hezbollah could just attack Israel — unprovoked — claiming among its goals the liberation of Jerusalem, and using missiles provided by an Iranian regime that says Israel should be wiped off the map, then it was a war about everything. And Israel had to respond resolutely.

So, gauging the right response was intrinsically hard. In the end, Mr. Olmert bombarded Hezbollah’s infrastructure, and, tragically but inevitably, the homes of Hezbollah’s Shiite followers, among whom Hezbollah fighters were embedded.

The Israeli response was brutal, but it did send a deterrent message, which Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader, received. As he put it in an interview on Lebanon’s NTV, “If I had known on July 11 ... that the operation would lead to such a war, would I do it? I say no, absolutely not.”

Even he doesn’t think he won.

Give Nasrallah credit for honesty. What Arab leader has ever been so self-critical? Nasrallah was reacting to those Lebanese voices that said: Thanks for passing out $12,000 to families who lost homes in the fighting, but had you spent that money on schools and jobs, rather than a stupid war, we’d all be better off.

The fact that Condi Rice and the French foreign minister, working with the U.N., were able to secure an international peacekeeping force in south Lebanon is a potentially key achievement on two fronts. If the force works — still a big if — Hezbollah will not be able to directly attack Israel without getting embroiled in a conflict with 15,000 French, Italian, Indian and possibly Turkish peacekeepers. That is a big new strategic problem for Hezbollah, Iran and Syria. They can’t hit Israel now without harming their ties with the E.U.

More important, what have we learned in recent years? One, Israel’s occupations of the West Bank, Gaza and Lebanon are unsustainable. And two, Lebanon and the Palestinians don’t have their act together enough yet to control border areas when Israel leaves — either by agreement (Oslo) or by just unilaterally withdrawing and throwing the keys over the fence. As a result, the peace process has not been “land for peace,” but “land for war.”

When Israel pulls out of Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank and wants quiet, it needs a reliable structure of authority on the other side, which, right now, neither Lebanon nor the Palestinians alone can provide.

The U.N./European force evolving in Lebanon may offer a new model. It’s not “land for peace,” or “land for war,” but what I’d call “land for NATO.” Israel withdraws and the border is secured by a force that is U.N. on the outside but NATO on the inside.

“The fact that it has a heavy European/NATO component makes it credible to Israel, and the fact that it has a U.N. umbrella makes it acceptable to the Arab world,” said the U.N. under secretary Shashi Tharoor, the dynamic Indian diplomat who is a finalist to succeed Kofi Annan as secretary general and who deserves U.S. endorsement.

The Europeans have to understand “that something very big is at stake in this force,” said the Israeli political theorist Yaron Ezrahi. They have to prove that demilitarization in south Lebanon can give Israel security and Lebanon both sovereignty and an effective international partner to maintain order. If that happens, he added, “it could revive the chances for an eventual Palestinian-Israeli deal on the West Bank and Gaza.”

Yes, it’s a long shot, but maybe something good can actually come out of this good-for-nothing Lebanon war.

Photo credit: Thomas Friedman. (Fred R. Conrad/The New York Times)

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

If you really disagree with everything Friedman says here, then please imagine that you were the Prime Minister of Israel. What should the Prime Minister do when Hezbollah fighters cross the international border and kidnap Israeli soldiers? It seems like you are merely grumbling, without giving your readers any specific ideas to think about.

The Unknown Candidate said...

Well said, Julie! Thanks, your response is dead on.

Mickey, if you have been reading my blog, you would know that my position is that violence and wars do not make one safer and lead to "security." Anyone with an ounce of common sense understands that.

Your question, as Julie points out, is based on a false, one-sided, Friedman-esque premise, which makes the question irrelevant.

Anonymous said...

UC says..."Your question, as Julie points out, is based on a false, one-sided, Friedman-esque premise, which makes the question irrelevant."

This is the logic of, "well, you hit me first!" which is not adult logic. And it is not a very good way to evade my question.

Let me rephrase my question.

If you were Olmert, and you wanted to stop Hezbollah from crossing international borders and kidnapping Israeli soldiers, what would you do? Would apologies be enough? Would ANYTHING be enough?

If you choose to believe that Friedman is full of crap, that is fine. But what SHOULD the Israelis do to bring about peace?

Anonymous said...

Julie conflates Lebanon and Palestine. She seems to think that a crime against Palestine requires a response from Lebanon.

Julie also thinks that if the government of Lebanon does not respond to an attack by Israel... i.e. does not complain to international bodies.... then it is up to Hezbollah to respond.

I live in Japan. I can assure you that this sort of thinking leads to madness. Let me give you an example.

There is an island somewhere between Japan and China which wiser heads of both countries have decided is "disputed territory." It is just a rock which water washes over, which global warming has exposed. Maybe there is a tree on it or something. Surely, nobody lives there.

The governor of Tokyo... a noted right winger... went out to that island and stood on it and planted a Japanese flag on it.

The Chinese loudly protested.... and so did the Japanese government. They said, "You are the governor of Tokyo. It is not your job to make the foreign policy of our nation. It is our job. If the Chinese decide to shoot at you, we will have to defend you, and some of us might get hurt. Please get off the island now."

In defending Lebanese sovereignty, Hezbollah has brought death and destruction on many people who have nothing to do with Hezbollah.

Anonymous said...

I asked the original question, "if you were the Prime Minister of Israel, what would you do to bring about peace?" And Julie, without answering my question, said, "well, if you were Prime Minister of Lebanon, what would you do?"

I asked first. Answer my question, and then I will answer yours.

Anonymous said...

Mickey,

Like Bush, you ignore the thousands of kidnapped Lebanese, Palestinians, etc. in Israel jails. Did you think the President thought up incarceration without charges on his own?

If you permit your congressman and senators to support convicting the innocent in Gauntanamo without evidence, none of us will ever know who attacked us Sepetember 11, 2001. Bush wants that.

Moving on...

Gosh Mr., Friedman,

Israel did lose. Have you no concern for innocent people? If Israel had not lost, the US would already be in Iran.

They lost militarily. They lost morally. It was the most significant stupidity Israel has ever followed.

Oh, you never mentioned that Bush told them to do it.

I guess that's not important, huh?

The Unknown Candidate said...

Mickey, I have answered this question for you in an earlier post. This entire dialogue has become circular and a waste of time. Your understanding of the Mid East is completely based on propaganda and not fact.
The only one using infantile logic happens to be you. Enough.

Anonymous said...

UC says, "Mickey, I have answered this question for you in an earlier post."

Well, sort of.

If you have read my earlier posts, you will realize that I never supported Israel's destruction of Lebanon. I never supported Israel's use of cluster bombs. I never supported the way the US gave Israel "time" to do its worst. Does this make me an anti-Semite?

I have read just enough about the Middle East to know that anybody who thinks that they have a simple answer to the problems of the Middle East is ignorant.

Have you read Benny Morris? He is the "revisionist" Israeli historian who chronicles the Palestinian rise to "nationhood" and its present rage against the "Zionist entity."

You might want to ask why, if Morris understands the Palestinians so well, Morris continues to live in Israel. Morris continues to support the "Zionist entity" against the legitimate demands of the Palestinians. And Morris' response to your question is that the Palestinians will never be satisfied with the return of prisoners, the return to 1967 borders and an apology and financial remuneration. The Palestinians will never be satisfied with a "two state" solution.

When you understand that every war Israel has fought has been for its very existence, then you slow down and talk tactics, which is what I have been trying to do.

Sure, we can discuss whether Israel should have been created by the UN in 1948. We can discuss the rotten things the Israelis have done to Palestinians. I know (better than most) that the Israelis have done wrong.

What I am concerned about is the fact that people have been born, had children and grandchildren in Israel who have known no other home. In order to fix the great wrong done to the Palestinians, you will have to do something about these people.

This is what Olmert was thinking when he told the bombers to blow away Lebanon after Hezbollah had kidnapped the 2 Israeli soldiers. Olmert made a very stupid tactical decision, which had immoral implications.

So what should Olmert have done?

Anonymous said...

Joe says, "Like Bush, you ignore the thousands of kidnapped Lebanese, Palestinians, etc. in Israel jails. Did you think the President thought up incarceration without charges on his own?"

I think you are mixing up apples and oranges here. Israel does not go across borders (recognized or not) and kidnap people and put them in jails without trial. These incarcerated people do have trials, unlike the ones Bush has incarcerated. If they are truly innocent, they are released. It does Israel no good to hold people who have caused Israel no harm. It does Israel a lot of good to hold people who have caused harm to Israel. Israel does tell the people what they are charged with. They get lawyers and can answer the charges.

Where Israel screws up is being lenient with its soldiers who have committed crimes against Palestinians.

Anonymous said...

Mickey,

You are so wrong.

I won't argue further, but Isael is a creation like Frankenstein. Lots of Jews disagree with its creation.

How can you think that the nation that says that falseness is the essense of spying, you should know better.

The captured Isaeli soldiers had crossed the border. Israel holds thousands of innocent.

I am done and appologize for not being willing to arguie this. You need to check the facts. The border is ill defined. President Bush insisted on the attacks. He needed a proxy for Iranian defenses, believing that Iran was supporting the defence of Lebanon.

Decide whose side you are on. Support it ruthlessly.

The murderers of 811 should be punished.

Click on my "website" for a video of interest.

Anonymous said...

Don't publish after drinking!

"911!

The refernce here is 911 witness. Listen for the pre-explosions anticipating th collapse.

Anonymous said...

Man, I ma just not paying attention.

911 witness is
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603

Anonymous said...

I think Joe has been doing a lot of drinking.

One of the things I have trying very hard to avoid is the lumping together of the various terrorisms and plots. Bush has lumped the various terrorisms and plots together, with the result that the Israelis could stay in Lebanon longer than they needed to, and the Russians were able to destroy the Chechnyan capitol, Groszny, with impunity. All to "punish" the terrorist Hezbollah and Chechnyans.

I am not going to argue about who is really responsible for the WTC collapse, but I do hope you do not blame the Israelis or Russians for it.

No, the Israelis did not cross anything like a border to be kidnapped by Hezbollah. Please check it when you are sober.

Anonymous said...

Well, I thought I was done.

I am sure that niether SH nor OBL had any part in the destruction that occured on 911. Beyond that, I believe a proper forensic investigation needs to be done to determine who is the mastermind.

There are interesting smoking guns, however.

1. FAA pre-prepared template unofficially released late in the day 911 with many errrors said that there was an elite Israeli military member on the first flight (Atta/North Tower) - Lewin.

2. Bunch of Israelis were dancing in the street 911 celebrating.

3. More Muslims died on 911 than Jews (only 3, counting Lewin, best I can tell - in NYC!) and I am unaware of any Arab organization that got advance warning, whereas all jews in the WTC apparently did as they conveniently weren't there.

Regarding the captured soldiers, I had checked and there is a dispute in the area about exactly where the border is. The Isaeli tank had strayed onto territory that Lebanon believes is Lebanon.

A note for Unknown Candidate: the TV news reports about the bionic arm says that it is being developed for the "hundreds" of military amputees returning. More fake news as I believe that the numbers are in the 10's of thousands.

Anonymous said...

This failed to get posted yesterday. Joe suggested that the Israeli soldiers weren't kidnapped. I got this from the Lebanon Daily Star, which is a pro-Hezbollah organ. I quote the pertinent part, which is not particularly out of context.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=75442

Question two: To what extent was Israel's barbaric attack on Lebanon the result of the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers and not a pre-planned operation that would have taken place regardless of whether the kidnapping had occurred or not? There is a lot of information indicating that an Israeli attack on Lebanon had already been planned for and agreed upon by Israel and the United States, and that the kidnapping had surprised Israel and forced it to attack earlier than planned. This means that the attack would have occurred regardless of the kidnapping.

Now if Hezbollah admits that it kidnapped the two Israeli soldiers, then either Joe is accusing Hezbollah of lying, or that perhaps Joe is wrong here. I would suggest that Joe is also wrong about the existence of the Israeli/Lebanon border.